tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2962818812490239064.post5496212061853009813..comments2024-02-12T19:44:43.493+11:00Comments on The Nondual Cafe: Sedona MethodDean Paradisohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03898106701950641326noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2962818812490239064.post-12072897234837023572018-07-12T14:02:27.696+10:002018-07-12T14:02:27.696+10:00I believe that releasing his fear of death would h...I believe that releasing his fear of death would have happened when he had his 'awakening' experience, due to self-enquiry, and finding out the nature of his (our) true identity. Although he doesn't talk too much about 'what' that identity is, since he was talking in the 50s with people who had little knowledge of Eastern philosophy, Self, etc. <br />On realizing his true nature and not-the-body (but the undisturbed awareness), it's likely the fear of death and illness fell away as a result. It seems the rest of his time was spent in trying to formulate a method which could allow people to release and just relax in the openness of pure awareness (ie the Sedona Method), though it tended to get more and more complicated as time went by and students lacked the ability to see the 'forest for the trees' :)Dean Paradisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03898106701950641326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2962818812490239064.post-88166170583301467962018-07-12T13:56:40.855+10:002018-07-12T13:56:40.855+10:00Thanks for the comment, Dill. I do think a lot of ...Thanks for the comment, Dill. I do think a lot of LL's work centres around unmasking beliefs and the energetic thrust (feelings) that these beliefs have, hence the releasing w/c, wa, etc.<br />And I can see that one of LL's motivating factors was his search for external love and approval which he discovered was one of his root sources of misery. He does make a few comments on one tape about 'squaring everything with love' and to just 'love, love, love', and while these are helpful tips, they're probably beyond the capacity of most self-centred people to actually implement (without serious practice). His self-inquiry (and unmasking beliefs) approach would suit more intellectual types, and the love approach would suit more 'heart' types it seems. Dean Paradisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03898106701950641326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2962818812490239064.post-34249958568611939422018-03-13T02:28:42.625+11:002018-03-13T02:28:42.625+11:00You said:
"A discovery for me- was that Leste...You said:<br />"A discovery for me- was that Lester actually seemed to attain Self-Realization from self-inquiry and inquiry on the nature of love (and performing heart-type practices which would be similar to Metta meditation) .. NOT using his Sedona Method." <br /><br />Hi Dean,an update....I have disected what LL did with another friend...and we have concluded that LL was driven for a want of love. He believed he was unloveable! He saw love as the true source of survival......Based on what we discovered, the main release he really did was to DECONTRUCT FALSE BELIEFS!! Yes w/a, w/c and w/s is all there but its a building block! What creates the false belief is a suppressed emotion!...One must analyze and invalidate ones beliefs, as one does this the emotions are released as they have nothing to attach to....wish this would have been taught....I really hope you comment!!! ThanksAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05460212930957530850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2962818812490239064.post-77701135274327644412017-08-30T10:02:08.959+10:002017-08-30T10:02:08.959+10:00Dean P I have many of his audios and have listened...Dean P I have many of his audios and have listened to the earlier ones as much as I can. <br />Hi PDF is the answer. Did you know Hale went ballistic at Larry when he released that PDF b/c he did not want the "public" to get a hold of it?<br />I have bought all 3 courses...Hale/Crane/Seretan...Hale's is by far most complicated....but the other 2 are still disconnected from its users. I have personally heard Crane rip into people asking him a simple question. I just revisited the book Happiness is Free" by Hale and its just gibberish pure pseudo spiritual crap.<br /><br />I do have one question...how did Lester release his fear of death? Any information would be extremely valuable.<br /><br />Thanks Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05460212930957530850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2962818812490239064.post-63239305846441016592017-08-29T14:48:32.196+10:002017-08-29T14:48:32.196+10:00Thanks very much for the insights, Dill Mann. It w...Thanks very much for the insights, Dill Mann. It was also my experience that the root cause was the wanting/needing 'love' and external seeking from that. That part is left out of most SM courses, but it seems that it was integral in Lester's experience of awakening. The only reason I've looked into this is because I went through Lester's talks very slowly and thoroughly, starting with his recordings and talks prior to 1970 even. It's all in the original recordings.Dean Paradisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03898106701950641326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2962818812490239064.post-42790603272804497762017-08-29T03:49:15.476+10:002017-08-29T03:49:15.476+10:00You said "was that Lester actually seemed to ...You said "was that Lester actually seemed to attain Self-Realization from self-inquiry and inquiry on the nature of love .. NOT using his Sedona Method" <br /><br />For the last 5 years I have tried to dissect SM to see what I was doing wrong, why I was not releasing as fast as LL kept saying I would...I didnt understand what I was doing wrong.<br /><br />Last year a friend and myself dove into discovering what LL really discovered and I give credit to him for discovering Lester's secret:<br />1) LL stopped trying to change or rewrite the past<br />2) LL looked at and let go of wanting love and lacking love<br />3) He corrected all past wounds with directed love<br />4) He saw love as the ultimate wanting ...not w/s w/c or w/a<br />5) He let go of fear of death.<br /><br />So far you are the only person I have seen address this about SM and how what LL did to go free was not same as the SM for 1975 on.<br />Thanks<br /> Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03983099049638919783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2962818812490239064.post-2907945871200327952017-08-24T12:57:29.627+10:002017-08-24T12:57:29.627+10:00Dean, Great piece. A friend of mine and myself hav...Dean, Great piece. A friend of mine and myself have been involved in SM for last 5 years.<br />We were perplexed with how LL went free vs SM post 1975. There is a bug difference b/w the 2.<br /><br />My friend had an ephiany and realized the wants are WRONG. W/c w/a & w/c...LL went free b/c he stopped trying to change past,past feelings and things he had no control over. He let go of wanting love. He then became tediously loving....that is where the secret lies. Not what came after 75....I have been releasing on all wanting love feelings and the wanting love...and the releases have been more profound than anything I have done before...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05460212930957530850noreply@blogger.com